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Message I once got: 

Person: " im unsure how old you are, but your fixation on that office worker as a concept and the way you talk about them (regardless of if its platonic) is bordering on stalker behaviour, if not already there. its possible to be platonically stalked, i was stalked by a platonic (now ex)friend of mine once.

 

it seems very, very likely to me that they simply cant see you from their window, and you are making a LOT of assumptions about someone youve only seen while working. how do you know theyre 30, for example? lots of people look slightly older or younger than they actually are.

as it is it doesnt seem to me like theyre actually particularly aware of you, but id be concerned that youre causing them a lot of discomfort and stress - discomfort that could easily lead to them quitting their job and/or moving locations, and potentially even calling the cops on you if you attempt any contact with them.

personally, i would recommend that you find somewhere else to people watch and leave them alone. there will definitely be other people that you can actually speak to who will willingly be your friend...

but i dont think some random person (who i assume is older than you) working and staring vaguely out the window will be that person. also, the way you talk about teenagers reflects a harmful pattern of thought, so i hope you either are a teenager yourself or dont actually interact with any this way in your day to day life (aside from your ghost).

thank you for reading, thinking over and properly considering my words. hope youre doing alright otherwise. "

My response (2024 November 10):


Defending myself:

Life got in the way, "lawyer" didn't reply, but now "lawyer" DID!

I'm first writing this on a document thing, and I have the things copy-pasted as notes or whatever.

Sorry that it took so long, but regardless, here ya go!

I do have a response my "lawyer" - seriously, shout-out to my "lawyer" - recommended me, but Imma try to debunk this thing, but there is also the alternative answer.

"im unsure how old you are," same goes for you! I understand being unsure of how old I am, but just fyi, I am still significantly younger than the person we're about to speak of.

"but your fixation on that office worker as a concept and the way you talk about them (regardless of if its platonic) is bordering on stalker behaviour, if not already there. its possible to be platonically stalked, i was stalked by a platonic (now ex)friend of mine once." I know that's possible. I will need elaboration though.

"it seems very, very likely to me that they simply cant see you from their window, and you are making a LOT of assumptions about someone youve only seen while working." Well, I make theories and ask questions - about them not being able to see me ... this week alone, we've accidentally aligned our bodies when facing each other, we've stared into each other's eyes - and if the argument was to be made that they just HAPPEN, to sometimes look out at the window at a specific spot that happened to not be "down" enough to be the field, then I also wanna say, that I've been on my way to a table a bit further away from where I sit, and ON MY WAY, their eyes were watching - they've watched me from other windows, but I'm suuuuuure they just REEEEEAAAALLY like the grass and brown wooden benches outside and whatnot - they're never looking at the fecking CHERRY TREE either, but I'm sure they just happen to look at the pale building or something. I've come in, soaking wet one day from that rain, and they kept making quick glances towards me, soon after - with none of the rage they otherwise had, when it comes to their online meeting. I've come in after a windy day, wearing a skirt, bare legs, and they STARED - no matter what I did. In fact, they glance every day - poor dude got jumpscared though, SEVERAL TIMES when I suddenly showed up after being gone for a while (which made them work harder, hire me, offices), and their body-language seem to be mirroring mine at times, such as walking in with their phone in their hand the same way or whatever - and if they have no one to look at, they'd have no reason to put SO much effort into avoiding even the slightest GLANCE out the window during a meeting or something, right? I've had them walk in or sit back down or stay, just based on which of these things I was gonna personally do - I've had them avoid looking out the window when grabbing something near it, I've had them drink soon after I did - and man, they RARELY ever stand up and work anymore, ever since I felt like we had a mutual understanding, that we are both friends now (at some point after summer break, 2024, I believe). I used to sit more in the back of the room, on some low couch, and even back THEN, they looked at me - I just tended to deny or doubt it, or whatever - this person is also more often in their office after summer break, and you know what might be a highlight? One time, before summer, they made some angry "go away"-ish gestures, presumably at me - and, like, soon afterwards, I looked at them less and less, and would dodge, duck, and make a run for it, every time their eyes were on me - I listen to music often, and when I got back up after my song was done, sometimes, they were STILL staring, and within the week, they seemed to be making some happy/apologetic gestures (though I ducked fast, man), but soon, I went back to normal, and their prolonged staring, just stopped. Saying that stuff about stalking, is of course insulting to ME, but even more to the victims of stalking, and also to my little office buddy, who you then claim these things about - and I actually took a day - September, I think it was, 2024 - and I just stopped looking as much, but when I did, I could see their gaze - especially when I half-looked/avoided it, and it was an unusual amount ... well that didn't last long, but still - and have they taken their jacket off in front of the window with their back turned, all in my flamboyant usual way? Yes. And have they brought their desk down right after being done talking to their co-worker? Also yes.

"it seems very, very likely to me that they simply cant see you from their window," Yeah, I too, rest my head on hand, staring at the grass in all seasons, weather, time of day, and mood.

" and you are making a LOT of assumptions about someone youve only seen while working. how do you know theyre 30, for example? lots of people look slightly older or younger than they actually are." I don't know their specific age, they just happen to "look" or "act" it, but it doesn't really matter - they seem significantly older than me, along with some of their co-workers, and I feel like they see me as such - hey, I myself act different ages, look younger than I am, so Lord knows what they assume - well, actually, it feels like they see me as a kid ... which I believe I AM, compared to them.

"as it is it doesnt seem to me like theyre actually particularly aware of you, " which post/posts did you read?

"but id be concerned that youre causing them a lot of discomfort and stress" yes, as proven by their most often relaxed or calculated way of working, most of the time, and the fact that they seem more stressed with co-workers, AND the fact that they can glance out the window and then stretch their body for several seconds, or take a sip of their drink, or sit in the same position longer than with a co-worker.

"- discomfort that could easily lead to them quitting their job and/or moving locations, " August 2024, we didn't have much time together, before they had to move temporarily, and came back around 2 weeks and a half later, which seems random, and feck if I knew. 1 day before, and they kept staring and glancing, and all those things, so much - like, I wondered how they wouldn't get fired - they seemed to look at me over half the time! Day 2, they were in the big window, closer to me, full-body window, mug in hand, just STARING out, and it seemed to be at ME ... had to go, came back later, and as they were helping with moving the last things, they never looked out the window, but seemed sad, hesitant, angry, and whatever else ... and when they came back, it was a lot of quick stares before the calm ... they are always near the window, work in the place they do, and even with their sass and anger and other emotions, they're still being tolerated at worst. They go to lunch with their co-workers and can have a nice time with them, and can relax on their chair when talking about stuff with them, etc. I think they're fine, are they not?

"and potentially even calling the cops on you if you attempt any contact with them." Well, I used to be in the same room as them when they used to come in much earlier, and that was still rare, and I wouldn't talk, I'd stare ... and sometimes it was as if they never noticed me, sometimes I'd end up getting stressed, and angry, and sassy, and a little loud, and Lord knew if they heard me, but they probably DID - one time I had to be close because they were as close as can be, to the place where one puts one's plates, and I ended up talking English with they-wouldn't-know-who, and they didn't talk to anyone, nor react, at the time - and one time I stood in a doorway, plate and lots of other stuff in hand, bag on my back, and got deadpan-stared at by the people passing by, who would soon just return to getting in line ... this office worker though, walked past a bit, suddenly STARED - like, just a sudden STARE, maybe more confused or deadpan than the others, but certainly for longer ... before of course, standing in line again. This was a long time ago I guess. A week before summer break though, and a week, or more, or two, since we looked at each other (a tent thing was in the way for that time), they sat down to eat with their co-workers ... and smiled, in my direction - I was alone, behind me one could just see cars or people walking by, if anything, and that's due to the glass, and Lord knows if anything else that surrounded me, could've justified the thing I've almost never seen from them: such a happy smile ... they smile and are casual and get along with co-workers and all - I've heard their voice and name, but with me, they're always deadpan - even on PHONE CALLS they can get all excited ... but with me, they may not have an expressive face, but it's like I can SENSE their emotions or something, and I've watched that person, in that window, just rest their head on their hand, watching me as I go and sit, as if they're calm, and happy, and just enjoying my existence ...

"personally, i would recommend that you find somewhere else to people watch and leave them alone." I tried a few times to leave them alone ... I don't think they like that, LOL.

"there will definitely be other people that you can actually speak to who will willingly be your friend..." typically not in my "creepy" way though, but sure, I guess the void must stay ...

"but i dont think some random person (who i assume is older than you)" yeah, they are.

" working and staring vaguely out the window will be that person." well they stare at a specific spot, but ...

"also, the way you talk about teenagers reflects a harmful pattern of thought," you mean, the jokes I make that I label as jokes, or the self-reflective psychology/analyzing I do about what I admit my big fear is? Or the ones where I end up info-dumping about how my bad experiences, or the ones liked by teenagers, especially teenage boys, who I more specifically complain about, at times? Nevermind about the likes, that could've been one of my 3+ teenage fans, they're biased.

"so i hope you either are a teenager yourself or dont actually interact with any this way in your day to day life" Maybe I'm a teen, no guranteens though, LOL! Anyways, not sure how I interact with teens.

"(aside from your ghost)." How and why is it socially acceptable for me to treat him the way I do? And, like - like seriously, what makes him different? Am I treating him okay? Why can I just go around and be friends with him? Why are you not concerned?

"thank you for reading, thinking over and properly considering my words. hope youre doing alright otherwise." than you, even though you basically insulted me. This was fun to debunk now that I CAN, and I don't wanna come off as aggressive nor anything, I'm just confused, curious, and autistic as well. My friend actually has seen me quickly write things down after seeing them, SO many times, and this week I had someone looking at them - WHO WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT OBVIOUS - and they saw, and nothing changed. Like, I UNDERSTAND concern, but this is my office worker, and I'm their nepo baby ...

Aleu masking credit so I don't forget: SaraChanLionWolf

Just as I now have the thought, you could think of what would happen if you never "met" your f/o (feel free to also think/comment about your non-platonic f/os, the tags THIS TIME are just here because the subject is a platonic one of mine and because that was my focus) - like, I think about the fact that I was close to just deciding to NOT read the webcomic, or to stop and not go back and pretend like it doesn't exist and refresh Tumblr, instead of still reading to see if I'd still like him. I know mine from some post recommending an aromantic webcomic, because I was on my recommended Tumblr page thing, and often got recommended aromantic things due to being aromantic, so this was yet another post, but I at first didn't expect to be interested in it, just as with any other, but then I literally only saw like an image of the main character, on the link (didn't even KNOW he was the main character), could only, like, comprehend his eyes and hair and maybe some facial features, all before I clicked on the link - but when I could only comprehend the few things, I was already like "is this that type of - YEP, I'm gonna love this guy, aren't I?" - but anyways, I could've never seen that post. I could've also scrolled past it, and actually DID think to myself several times in the process, even AFTER reading the webcomic, that look, if it brings me so much pain that I love him and we can't be friends and the feelings I have about the webcomic, then I can just STOP - and why don't I stop? I don't even stop when I think it's a bad idea for me to keep being acquaintances with someone, even! I think I maybe even clicked "x" on that browser tab, but for whatever reason I at some point clicked the link AGAIN - even if like, I may or may not have scrolled away again. I could've not remembered or not saved the name or link of the webcomic, and not checked yet again, and not have decided to keep reading until I no longer liked him - "I MUST at some point just have a thing that makes me stop liking him, even if in the future", was the attitude I had, that may be easy to forget that I had. I was originally not gonna post about him, but then started venting about him when posting about Loveproof, THEN started venting in posts that were tagged with aro tags and at least vaguely related to being aromantic (and I thought maybe I'd be considered rude or get in trouble if I didn't give a link to the webcomic each time, plus, maybe someone in the comments could've said they came from me or something, plus, come on, free promotion for f/o's source) - but eventually I'd just post using the Loveproof tag, and somehow I ended up posting in the selfshipping community because that technically qualified or WHATEVER - I'd vent there and under the Loveproof tag - as in, that's what I still do - so I post general selfshipping stuff, selfshipping stuff related to me and/or my OCs, selfshipping stuff related to Daniel, and still general Loveproof stuff in the Loveproof tag, so yes, you could technically be a Loveproof fan and just come and join - I have met a few others on Tumblr, but as one can probably see if one is curious and checks out the tags, well ... I think the selfshipping community might know about Loveproof, and I think they might know it from ME ...

It's SO weird seeing my platonic f/o canonically cry over how he's allegedly an awful person or whatever - like, I know WHY, but come on Daniel, I've literally considered asking people to hire an assassin to go after myself or something, because I sometimes think I might be that bad of a person and that people would mainly just be happy about that, and HE thinks HE'S a bad person?!